the process would take 13 years and applicants would have to pay a fine and back taxes, learn english, and pass a criminal background check among other hurdles. but before that system can even be set up certain security goals must be met, including improvements to the border fence. one member of the group, senator lindsey graham of south carolina said failing to change the nation's immigration system would be economicide ice oly waymera loses is to do nothing. and to the who bieveat we don'tl immigration in the future, you're in denial about the demographics. and to those who say this costs more to take people out of the shadows and put them a legal status where they pay taxes, you've certainly lost me. that makes no sense. >> warner: for more now we turn to illinois democrat dick durbin, the majority whip in the senate sand a member of the so-called gang of eight. welcome, senator durbin. you all have been working on this non-stop since the start of this congress. how hard was this to forge this compromise? >> this wasn't easy. you know, you have eight willful members of the u.s. sen